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ⓜⓔⓡⓒⓨ ║angela zeιgler ([personal profile] responds) wrote in [community profile] gourmetburgers2021-05-23 07:27 pm

[vency] angel effect

[ It has been reported for decades that near-death experiences can be a diverse reaction. Some claim to see nothing but light. Some claim to replay the major moments in their life on repeat. Others? Claim to see angels parting the heavens, a salvation to deliver news that their time was not yet here.

It was not the first time one of her patients made the comparison – she had heard it multiple times during her career, but Angela didn't like it. There was no divine intervention here, no holy significance. It was science. Science that allowed her to practice medicine, join an organization that seemingly wanted to make the world a better place, and keep those in good health alive for one more day. It brought her to cross paths with someone that would leave a mark... that would show fleeting faith was not what would save someone.

A scientific mind wants to know how, to know the workings on something that was presented to them. She couldn't. Angela fails time and time again to think of what the symbiote did to her – for all methods to her own knowledge? She should be dead. Then again, so should the man recovering in Room 319 in the Valkyrie Medical Facility.

Angela monitored him – one of the few who dared to – for days, maybe even a week solid. Her time tending to his wounds were not purely physical, but there was something heavenly about how she treats her patience. Something an oath or medical degree can't provide. ]


Again. I do not care if you can run a marathon... I want to see your gait. Walk slowly from one side of the room to the other.

[ Her coat drags against the floor, her pen tapping to her clipboard. She treats him like any patient, no matter the... complications... he may bring. They had crossed paths back and forth, her notes on the symbiote adding to be its own novel – but she doesn't share it, doesn't publish it. It's for them. For their own benefit. The wheels of her chair scoot away, giving him room to walk – freeing him from an elongated bedrest. Her voice was a bit more pinpointed, less warmth and more direct. He responded better to that side of her. ]

The faster you oblige, the faster you can leave.
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[personal profile] primevil 2021-06-03 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
[ In something akin to wonderment, Venom looks down at Angela, whose body contorts to extract as much pleasure as she can from his every ministration. His tendril had just finished assuming more finger-like proportions before transitioning to a more phallic shape, filling walls that she herself willingly tightens. ]

Our want is yours.

[ His claiming licks have not ceased, all the while. Interrupted though they may be by his occasional speech, his tongue is ceaseless, lavishing Angela's bare skin with a distinct affection... somewhat like a supplicant in reverence. But then his tongue moves, flitting away from her cheek and the side of her neck. The tip starts teasing at the corner of her lip, waiting for her mouth to open - however slightly - to gain entry. He does not go further in, though, refusing to be as invasive above as he is below, because his tongue supports a different goal. It presses against her tongue, lapping it up in languid caress. The closest thing to a kiss he can manage while avoiding the logistical nightmare of involving his gaping, fanged maw. ]

And we want you.

[ At will, the tendril inside her assumes a more finger-like ensemble. He seems invested in switching between the two modes - fingers and phallus - whenever he feels like it, never wanting Angela to get too comfortable with just one. But he feels his own urge to be more direct than his usage of a mere tendril. To put himself inside her like a "normal" lover might.

He can afford to wait. It's titillating enough, for now, to continue watching Angela writhe. To see her succumb to his advances so nakedly, and with so little fear. Which is why he continues fondling her, switching his hand to her other breast. The tendril attending to it previously has likewise abandoned it for the opposite breast, spiraling around its fullness until the tip can stroke her nipple. She will find, all the while, that his tendril below increases in vigor. In force. Pummeling intently, whether with the dexterousness of fingers or the girth of a cock, to make Angela's body shift in place... rocking the bed. ]


You'll serve us when we wish it.

But for now, we serve you.

[ He seems intent on following through with this till Angela reaches her breaking point. Till pleasures mount unsustainably, such that release is her only recourse.

For that to happen, Venom is content with waiting. With watching Angela experience just a taste of what he has to offer. ]
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[personal profile] primevil 2021-06-05 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
[ For Venom, it's quite different. Seeing Angela squirm doesn't invigorate him with a sense of power, like he's rendered her wholly pliable to his whims. Rather, he feels like he's doing her a service-- the beginning, it seems, of an act of reciprocity. He leaves her over-encumbered with pleasure, beside herself in the haze of her own arousal, from some twisted motivation resembling gratitude. Like he wants to thank her for sharing herself with him through this bond, with this act cementing the new and inseparable linkage among herself, Eddie, and the symbiote. Venom no longer represents the latter two, but the three of them altogether.

Which is why every sensation of pleasure, every goosebump and tantalized twitch of Angela's body, is equally Venom's. Because he can feel her feeling the very pleasure he instills, almost as if he's pleasuring himself. Though his tongue is massive against Angela's, he notes her fascination that has overcome her fear towards what is alien. He notes her attempt to respond with her own mouth and tongue, to press delicately and intimately with her own kisses against the slithering girth. It is worth noting once more how difficult it would be for him to kiss back, how many precious seconds he'd be wasting to relinquish his tongue, when he can simply go on lavishing her like this. With a distinct care, for that matter, that keeps him from outright smothering her with a barrage of languid licks.

And of course, his ministrations below are ceaseless. What he continues doing with his hands and tendrils don't stop, as it'll take far more than this to leave Venom exhausted. His is an endurance amplified by the symbiote's exposure to their former enemy, as well as the endurance Eddie's own physicality brings to their makeup. Venom, once the sum of both man and symbiote, shows Angela just how much that's worth-- how much of it exists for her to be a part of.

It's true, though. Venom would happily keep going, stopping only if Angela ever tires from overstimulation or exhaustion. But she proves, in her own way, to be relentless. She overcomes that haze of her own pleasure to place her hands on the wall, arch her back slightly, and assume a somewhat different position as a result-- like she's bracing herself for more. So when she looks up at Venom, fighting every temptation to succumb, Venom can only grin down at her proudly. Not having to explicitly know her intentions in words, but solely in feeling. ]


Oh, we understand you. Just as you understand us.

[ He had risen away from Angela to speak, seemingly no longer interested in kissing. And the force between Angela's legs - the steady pummeling of a tendril that once assumed contingent shapes - ceases. Venom slowly relinquishes said tedril, allowing it to feel out her walls and press every side before vanishing. But the reprieve of emptiness here doesn't last. He feels her desire for the touch of a "normal" lover, or perhaps the closest thing to it achievable by Venom. And in the briefest respite this moment affords, Venom prepares himself to deliver. A phallic shape emerges from between his own legs, conforming - as Venom's body does - to the shape of Eddie Brock. Venom's girth is Eddie's, and soon they'll both share it. Because he doesn't take an extra moment to linger in front of Angela, opting instead to steadily lower his hips, Angela's legs spread all the while.

With Angela's back arched, Venom takes that as an invitation, slipping his arm underneath it. He lowers his center of gravity as he reenters her walls, his girth here more substantial than the tendril's. More authentic. And he keeps sliding until the hilt meets her slit and their bodies fully connect. He's steadier here than he's ever been, wanting Angela's body to accommodate him fully... to feel the utter scale of him.

And to think, before he even begins pounding away at her... his other tendril hasn't stopped encircling one of her breasts, tip caressing her nipple. Against her own relentlessness, he clearly likes reminding her of his. And here he is about to share more of that resilience, bucking his hips forward. Asserting himself, again and again, between her legs. The bed starts creaking loudly to every shift of their weight, as Venom lets out a hungry growl. ]


We won't stop, Angela. You know this. Not until you finish.

[ Steadily, his force increases. His hips clash with hers, less like the clandestine retreat of two lovers, but like the animalistic consummation of a shared instinct. And as he establishes this rhythm, he once more summons his tongue. Utilizes it as he did previously, leaving yet more claiming licks on the one whom he's mounted. Theirs is a mutual ownership - one over the other, and vice versa - but here's Venom asserting his share. ]
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[personal profile] primevil 2021-06-06 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Venom becomes so focused on this extended contact, this meeting of their bodies that leaves no gap between them, that he eventually relinquishes his tongue. After one last possessive lick, it’s as if he’s satisfied to have tasted enough of her. Satisfied enough that now, he only thrusts his hips forward rhythmically. Powerfully. The entirety of his weight suffices to creak the bed all the more, giving rise to the possibility that this flimsy thing might collapse. Such considerations fall away, however, when a tempest of pleasure continues washing over Angela, radiating from the point of contact between her legs. Despite all his fixation on the motioning of his hips, the incessant thrusting of his girth that fills her, Venom’s remaining tendril does not relent against Angela’s breast. Even that sensation may fall away, though, as the denouement that approaches becomes one of repetitive force.

Noting the accumulating wetness seeping from between Angela’s legs, Venom can only deliver a low chuckle in delight. To see her come undone this way, allowing herself to be claimed by him in total abandon... it’s enough to harden him further, his cock unwaveringly firm as Angela trembles beneath him. Like a force of nature, he is ceaseless without any heed to Angela’s bewilderment, letting her pant and sweat and shake to the deluge of her own orgasm. Even as the apex of these sensations pass and Angela’s breath begins to slow, Venom doesn’t stop. Because in many ways, he feels this just as much as she does, like the orgasm hits him secondhand. It’s a wonder he didn’t collapse right then and there, but it’s clear his focus is indefatigable— and his devotion above all.

It’s also when Angela musters her commands that Venom slows down, stops himself though his cock - ever erect - lingers inside her. In the sudden quiet, Venom’s own breathing - labored by both his efforts and the effects of his efforts - reveals itself. Occasionally, he’s almost shuddering. For him to continue hovering over Angela, showing no greater sign of exhaustion or fatigue... there can truly be no doubt he’s superhuman. But even for him, no amount of alien enhancements entitles him to keep going. To continue thrusting now that Angela’s moment has passed, and she must be built back up to yet one more orgasm. Rather, he hears her commands. Truly listens.

And without a word in protest, he finally relinquishes his cock, his body gravitating away from Angela as he steadily slides himself out from between her legs. It hangs between his legs as he kneels on the edge of the bed for a moment, the mass slick with Angela’s own wetness. Without any more prompting, it neither rises nor hardens. But Venom waits readily, with something of an anticipatory grin. Following “Doctor’s orders,” he begins lying back on the opposite side of the bed, not really in need of a pillow. With his back to the mattress, he can only look on at her now, naked and hot with her own sweat. He discerns the deliberation in her eyes, chuckling delightedly in his own fascination. ]


Please don’t tell us the rest.

Just show us.
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[personal profile] primevil 2021-06-08 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
[ It was satisfying enough to watch Angela come undone to the throes of her own orgasm. But to see Angela unfurl in other ways, removing her hairclip to let her locks flow freely, Venom detects something of a sea change. The professional veneer, the ostensible separation of doctor and patient, is well and truly gone. Absent now as a nude and disheveled Angela shows how quickly she can get her bearings straight, even while up against Venom. Because now, it's he who lies on his back, getting mounted by a woman unclothed from the protections of the symbiote. Without those same affordances, she still manages to tower over him in her own way.

And as she lowers herself onto him, satisfaction rears its head once more. The now familiar sensation of reentry encircles Venom's girth. But more than the pleasing familiarity of that sensation is the pleasing sight of the woman on top of him, her entirety on display for him to see. To watch her take pains, while straddling him, to rock the bed. To shift her hips as she accommodates his girth, welcoming it into her with every rise and fall of her body. It might help, here, that Venom begins bucking up. Not with all the force, of course, that his hips can muster. But just enough to reciprocate Angela's efforts with a more concentrated sensation that she must contend with.

She might suspect that he'd conjure tendrils, here. Use them as he did previously to utterly smother her with pleasure, though it's she who takes him now. But instead of that, Venom lifts his hands and plants them on Angela's sides... to caress them. It's almost like a soft massage, really, as she continues working herself onto him. His fingertips spread his delicate touch down to the sides of her waist, then up past the small of her back to her shoulder blades. It's as if Venom's taking a moment to truly appraise her body with his own hands-- properly acquaint himself with the newest subject of their bond. ]


We don't make demands from equals.

[ That's all he says before resuming his own work, though none of it distracts from the sensations Angela brings to the fore. Eddie and the symbiote, though their minds are intertwined as Venom... feel it separately. Feel her walls tightening around Eddie's girth while it's wrapped in the substance that makes the symbiote. On different registers, they feel the consistent pleasure that Angela imposes on them. For Eddie, it's all radiating around his cock as a "normal" lover's might, but for the symbiote, it's radiating through its substance like a part of it is becoming a part of Angela. And altogether, Venom feels both sensations at once. Not contrasting, but instead... complimentary.

A pleasure he clearly hasn't felt often enough, as Venom's breath quickens the longer Angela pursues. He grunts in irritation, seeming to get overwhelmed by the consistency of her ministrations-- enough, in fact, that he eventually drops his hands, letting them lie lifeless on either side of the bed. His two minds can only focus on the sensations at hand, clinging to enough of a presence of mind to experience as much of this as possible. ]


This is not a hunger we're used to sating. But you've helped us both realize...

[ Even for two minds working in unison, it's now hard to maintain a single train of thought-- ]

...just how famished we really are.
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[personal profile] primevil 2021-06-08 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
[ The way Venom understands it, much giving and taking has already transpired between them. Venom pumping into Angela with his hips earlier, watching every vigorous thrust send her spiraling into her own orgasm, did not feed his visual and sensual delight as a separate partner. If not for his alien resilience, his twin consciences would have very much been overwhelmed by a secondhand euphoria, derivative of Angela's every pleasured perception. Even now, as she rides him, the pleasure she feels is likewise his: the force of his girth against her walls is a force he needn't imagine, but one he perceives simultaneously.

There's obviously no handbook for this, though. So Venom makes no effort to clarify or explain this experience, instead... letting Angela feel her way through it. Letting her hypothesize as a scientist might, watching her accommodate - conceptually - her every action executed in lockstep with Venom's. And more than the mere sensation of her riding him is Venom's delight in the sight, of her shifting her weight and practically bouncing atop his lap while she labors to fill herself with his length. It's a hypnotic display, a rhythm consistent enough that a second doesn't pass without Venom being adequately titillated, entertained. ]


An appetizer for whom, Angela?

[ Despite appearances, that's a serious question. Because Venom's enjoyment of her ministrations compels him to consider reciprocity resembling her understanding of it. As he watches her lower herself further, securing a better grip on her mount, Venom can only chuckle at her subsequent words. Not out of disagreement, or some disdain for her considerations. Rather... a misguided sense of agreement. Like maybe he agrees too much. ]

Test us, then. Take care of us, like you said.

But don't mind if we keep testing you.

[ Where the lips of Angela's pussy meet the base of Venom's cock, symbiote matter projects upward from his loins - like webbing - to connect to Angela's, coating the space between their sexes. It does not interfere with Angela's movements, like the rhythmic clapping of her backside, but she's going to feel something working within that dark webbing. Not quite a tendril, but like one in the way autonomous movements suddenly palpate her from within the blackness. A warm, smooth, and precise pressure - like that of a tongue - begins to circle her clit, never missing no matter how much her body rises and falls. ]

We've got considerable control, y'know.
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[personal profile] primevil 2021-06-09 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Her immediate response, spoken with such conviction, gives Venom another reason to smile. A grimace, no doubt, that would be menacing to others. Just not to Angela. ]

Good answer.

[ While it impresses Venom to witness Angela's resolve, admittedly... none of it surprises him. When their minds connected, and he shared the vast expanse of the symbiotic bond with her, they also received her experiences. Glimpses of the extremes she took and the sacrifices she made to honor her oath, to uphold the sanctity of life in keeping with her principles. And while Venom doesn't hold all life sacred, especially not the lives of those who'd harm the innocent, he can respect a devotion to principles that only elevates Angela.

Elevates her higher, in Venom's doubled mind, than any pair of mechanical wings can.

She responds well, after all, to the escalation. To the onslaught of sensations that Venom's begun to return in kind, even as she mounts him. It pleases him to witness the ways she must sustain herself, hold herself steady, especially by clawing at him. Symbiote matter doesn't budge against her nails like the outermost layer of human skin, but her intention is very much felt. She can almost feel Venom feeling it.

Even for her, it's difficult to contain the pleasure she must contend with, the pleasure that Venom's begun to instill with the expansion of his mass, the blackness that envelops the space between their respective loins. It's true that Angela stumbles once or twice, but it's also not like Venom's making it easy for her. He seems to adore challenging her, testing her limits by nearly giving her more than she can tolerate. It's like he wants to give her too much of a good thing, with all the pressure on her clit unceasing. That, combined with the force of his girth, making itself known inside her with every bucking up of his hips. Venom's clearly getting too greedy here, thinking he can get away with making Angela finish a second time, well before he even does.

Because his hips move faster and harder underneath her, such that any greater force might send her flying. She feels like tongue-like sensation swirling more fervently around her clit, pressing at a faster tempo. Some mischievous part of Venom wants to turn this into a contest... if it isn't one already. ]


You just strike us as somebody worth impressing.

If that's a problem, we can do badly on purpose.

[ Angela had best believe he's only joking. That for all the creaturely, primordial, and alien monstrousness of Venom... he can afford to have a sense of humor. ]
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[personal profile] primevil 2021-06-10 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
[ This 'treatment' must qualify as healing of a different kind, then. Because for all the querying and soul-searching Angela might perform given the effects of the symbiote's presence, the effects of Venom's unison, her own presence is therapeutic to him. The feeling of establishing a bond, of calcifying a connection with a new other, utterly invigorates him. Not just on the level of emotion, but also on the level of strength. There is power in accommodating Angela - all her memories, talents, and skills - that only feeds Venom's own. Not so much parasitic as it is, indeed, symbiotic. Because the longer they consummate their bond, and perhaps... the more often they do it, "Angela" and "Venom" become less mutually exclusive concepts. Rather, they intertwine as if to be no different, just as Eddie and the symbiote are linked.

Of course, the budding link between Venom and Angela only means he can anticipate her next climax. Feel her climbing towards it with every thrust of his hips from below, every maneuver of his webbing that palpates Angela's clit so delicately. Force and precision, the fruits of prowess in both strength and skill, inch Venom closer and closer to a second victory. To another instantiation of the way he claims her, and she him. It excites him into a low, sinister laugh-- a show of wicked delight that echoes across the clinic rather hauntingly. Less alien, more demon... but all Venom. ]


This is as much a matter of want as it is of need.

We're not just invested because of instinct. Or some pheromones.

Linking our minds has shown us who you are. Who you really are.

[ He doesn't relent. To the woman known as Mercy, Venom offers her none. Not when he can pummel against her walls even harder than before, leaving her clit beholden to its own onslaught of sensations all the while. He makes no effort to hold her steady when the webbing that connects their separate loins already does. No, he just looks up at her thoughtfully, carrying out his actions with tireless, inhuman consistency. ]

You rock, Angela. You are worthy of admiration.

[ But the longer he goes, and the closer he takes Angela to her own orgasm... he feels the rise secondhand. The clustering of sensations that presage her climax are not dormant in her alone, but in Venom as well. Extended contact in this manner has solidified their bond to the point that it's starting to look like Angela's orgasm will also be his own. For just as he can feel hers approaching, she can feel his as well. She can see it, too, the moment Venom's composure fades. When he starts looking away, in what she can only presume is some level of bashfulness... because his breathing is conspicuously harsh. His diaphragm heaves even as he thrusts beneath her in total abandon. ]

Which is why you have... ours.

[ It might surprise her to witness Venom so winded that he struggles to finish a sentence.

But he, in his relentless ministrations, will not cease. He'll make her finish.

She may just be surprised to witness what follows. ]
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[personal profile] primevil 2021-06-11 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
[ It might indeed be what's so inexplicable about this bond that fascinates Angela. How days of barely knowing Venom - barely knowing both Eddie and the symbiote - instead feel like years. Like the connection of their minds has given Angela a familiarity that takes "making up for lost time" to its furthest logical extent. She lacks fear in Venom's presence because in many ways, she commands knowledge over him. Understands what he is capable of, what choices he would and wouldn't make... even if she is not capable of fully articulating the minutiae of Venom's mind. All that makes him tick.

But it goes both ways. Because to Venom, Angela is equally proximate, yet somewhat opaque in places. Still distant. The purpose of consummating their bond, of entrenching their connection, seems to be to close that distance. The longer their bodies touch, the longer they exchange warmth like - indeed - two lovers, the closer they get to bridging the gap. To living up to the sense within each of them that they are no longer fully individuals, incontrovertibly separate. They are more connected than each of them understand.

Well, maybe the symbiote understands, but Eddie can't squeeze an answer out of it that doesn't involve speaking in riddles. For all the awareness granted to Eddie and Angela about the longevity of the symbiote, the civilizations it has watched rise and fall across the stars, it does not seem to fully understand its own nature. Then again, certain workings of the human brain are still a mystery, even in this age. The ocean depths are as much a frontier to human understanding as outer space. This might be why, between Eddie and Angela, the mystery of the symbiote is less a problem than it is a puzzle.

And the budding strength between Venom and Angela, the strength they share through their consummation, will better equip them to solve that puzzle. And to address, for that matter, the plethora of other problems they must face. Venom's persecution, for instance. His personal war on evil that soon, Angela will no doubt be a party to... if she isn't already. That, at least, is a conviction she must have felt radiating from him earlier on.

When the matter at hand didn't concern, like now, a transfer of pleasure. Torturous pleasure.

The kind that, when Angela finishes, smothers Venom like a tidal wave. A force he can't withstand, but can only succumb to, be swept away by. Because as soon as Angela trembles, her insides on fire, Venom also burns from within. When she cries out, so does he. He knows if he cuts loose, he could shout loud enough to scare all the forest fauna, and perhaps alarm any outsiders into investigating what should be an abandoned clinic. This is why Angela can see him struggle to silence himself, pleasured moans reduced to stifled grunts. He won't allow himself to compromise what they now have, won't permit the risk of exposure.

Between Angela's legs, she'll feel Venom's muscles tense below his waist. Him seizing up as he continues pumping his girth inside her, focus so reduced to the duality of his climax and hers, that the blackness connecting their loins sinks back into his body. From his cock, now all that connects them, she'll feel him start to twitch violently against her walls. The motions of riding him, of him bucking his hips up against her weight, utterly cease. Instead, he grips her hips with each hand. Holds her steady as if to steady himself, for when indeed... he finishes.

Like and unlike a "normal" lover. From within him bursts helpings of his own seed, sourced from Eddie's body but tainted by the symbiote's influence. Blackened, but no different in its texture. A tad explosively, the substance fills Angela's walls, only to seep down and out from her folds. ]


Do not... be alarmed.

[ He struggles to speak through his own gasps for air, not quite finished-- ]

The symbiote nullifies what you'd typically expect. Nothing will happen to you...

[ The last of it's squeezed out of him as he remains inside Angela, though altogether he collapses against the bed. Spent not only by the intensity of his own feeling, but also by experiencing Angela's. She can probably accept that he's only been more visibly winded in his fight with Juggernaut!

Might be good to know she comes a close second. ]
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[personal profile] primevil 2021-06-12 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
[ While Angela plants her back against the wall, Venom lies on the bed with his head on the opposite side. He crosses his arms behind his head to offer himself something of a pillow, having begun to wind down from the tempest of an orgasm that he and Angela shared. He waited patiently all the while, as Angela milked every last sensation she could siphon from their union, down to when she separated herself and clambered to the other side of the bed. She'll find, in Venom's waning arousal, that his cock doesn't simply droop into a dormant state, but slinks back into his body like some kind of retractable appendage. Like his tendrils. What had pooled out from Angela also returned to his body, like symbiote matter temporarily separated only to return to its source.

From where he lies, he does tilt his head to look on at her, heeding her words. In a post-coital fog, he basks in the heat from which Angela also benefits. A comforting warmth they both share in the afterglow of their consummation. ]


You felt it yourself, didn't you? The pleasure?

As for everything else you ask... you already know the answer.

[ She should feel that she's right. That both desires, here, are aligned. Eddie's will and the symbiote's match in their shared longing for Angela's body, her touch. A longing, of course, that she returns-- such that all three of them share the same feeling. ]

There's a long road ahead. For us to stay aligned.

A war all three of us will have to fight, on all fronts.

But after what we've experienced, and what you've shown us... we have full confidence in your care, Doctor.

[ It's then that he relaxes his neck, letting his head return atop his crossed arms yet. ]

Now, come here. Beside us.

Let us all... rest. Maybe stay this way a while, if it helps your... understanding.

Because if you think you're warm now, you've got another thing coming.